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	<title>Comments on: Ivy Dependency Management &#8211; Lessons Learned and Ant 1.8 Mapped Resources</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.beilers.com/2010/06/ivy-dependency-management-lessons-learned-and-ant-1-8-mapped-resources/#comment-53</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn, shoulda finshed reading the post :)

Although i&#039;m still not sure I&#039;d separate them.  The build stuff seems obvious enough, but there aren&#039;t a lot of them. The test stuff is less clearly seperated.  Some if my test dependencies are clearly seperate (junit) but many are a result of what the code itself is using (say communications libraries).    The only thing I can think of is having build tools as one (tiny) ivy file, the main app as a second, and the test deps as a third, with it depending on the &quot;runtime&quot; config of the main one, but that obviously isn&#039;t what you&#039;re doing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn, shoulda finshed reading the post <img src='http://www.beilers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Although i&#8217;m still not sure I&#8217;d separate them.  The build stuff seems obvious enough, but there aren&#8217;t a lot of them. The test stuff is less clearly seperated.  Some if my test dependencies are clearly seperate (junit) but many are a result of what the code itself is using (say communications libraries).    The only thing I can think of is having build tools as one (tiny) ivy file, the main app as a second, and the test deps as a third, with it depending on the &#8220;runtime&#8221; config of the main one, but that obviously isn&#8217;t what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.beilers.com/2010/06/ivy-dependency-management-lessons-learned-and-ant-1-8-mapped-resources/#comment-52</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why use multiple files?  I just use multiple configs.  I&#039;ve got one config for each major subsystem, one for runtime, one for tests, one for build tools themselves.    Then I just use ivy:cachepath to get create classpathes for each item, and only &quot;retrieve&quot; the runtime configuration.  The only serious minus to this is it means I have to run ivy as part of every build.  but as long as I have it configured to cache &quot;latest&quot; versions (so it doesn&#039;t have to constantly talk to the server) it only takes about 10 seconds to resolve all my dependencies, and I&#039;ve literally got more than 100, and close to 200 when you include transitive deps (yes, the project is a mess :) ).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why use multiple files?  I just use multiple configs.  I&#8217;ve got one config for each major subsystem, one for runtime, one for tests, one for build tools themselves.    Then I just use ivy:cachepath to get create classpathes for each item, and only &#8220;retrieve&#8221; the runtime configuration.  The only serious minus to this is it means I have to run ivy as part of every build.  but as long as I have it configured to cache &#8220;latest&#8221; versions (so it doesn&#8217;t have to constantly talk to the server) it only takes about 10 seconds to resolve all my dependencies, and I&#8217;ve literally got more than 100, and close to 200 when you include transitive deps (yes, the project is a mess <img src='http://www.beilers.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
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